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The Noetic Society is a 501(c)(3) non-profit group with members in Southern California and around the world, who have been inspired to study Homer, Parmenides, the pre-Socratics, Plato, the neo-Platonists, and other perennial philosophers and mystics, not for academic reasons, but for personal spiritual growth. The society was founded by Pierre Grimes, PhD in 1967, and was incorporated in 1978.



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Dec 23, 2019 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Dialogue(s): chaldean-oracles Reading from the Chaldean Oracles(*), is it possible to build the fragments into a unified theology?  Pierre demonstrates how we could do it. (*) I believe we were using the Thomas Taylor translation, available in Vol. VII, Oracles and Mysteries , ISBN-10 978-1898910-060, available from Prometheus Trust in the UK and Opening Mind Associates in the USA . [Thanks to Marty and Yoni for videotaping and editing/production, and to StefanR for preserving and...
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Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, nsaops, chaldean-oracles, damascius
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Sep 9, 2019 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Thanks to Bob Keller for filming, Julie Grabel Postel for producing and funding, and Sean Angier and Lisa Bivens for editing and digitizing from VHS to DVD. http://noeticsociety.org
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Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRS, pg1, republic, jung
Synopsis Per Barbara's suggestion, Pierre lays out a powerful meditation one can do, based on an analogy in Plato's Republic and element 148 of Proclus' Elements of Theology . Later he shows the similarity of this analogical meditation to a meditation he has before (many times) suggested, what we have sometimes called the “Xenophanes meditation”, (“What is seeing, hearing, and thinking?”, which is an adaptation of the qctual quote from a fragment from Xenophanes, “It is the whole that...
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Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, elements-of-theology, republic, fragments, proclus, xenophanes
Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
Jul 20, 2018 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp1 Sections: 133e-139a Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, Eldar, JeffS Synopsis Pierre leads the Parmenides Morning Study Group through another morning. We are still working through the 1st hypothesis of Plato's dialogue, Parmenides , looking at the 14 arguments made there (see Pierre's diagram from 6/27 ) and noting what patterns of thinking Parmenides is using. Today's talk, IMHO, was just mind-blowing. Well, darn near every talk is. But...
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Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp1
Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
May 21, 2018 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: plg Sections: 132a 132b Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, Eldar Initial discussion on the problems with our current education system, then.. Understanding the paragraph at 132A Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
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Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, plg
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Dec 6, 2017 Juan and Maria Balboa
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: plg Sections: 132d 132e 133a 134d 133e Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Eldar, JulieH, Yoni Is the Self an idea (in the Greek sense of 'idea')? The problem of infinite regress of likenesses when talking about a likeness between 'things' (in the phenomenal/physical world) and 'ideas' (in the metaphysical world) (Therefore right here in the Parmenides Plato is showing the problem with the idea of "forms" -- which academia thinks is the...
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Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
Sep 22, 2016 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Stephanus sections: 136d 136e 137a 137b Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, Eldar, Bradley, JeffS Why did Socrates go to see Zeno, not Parmenides? Why would Zeno want to re-hear Parmenides' hypothesis? And why hadn't he heard it for a long while, being Parmenides' student? Why would Parmenides say he dreaded -- like Ibycus' race horse -- going through the exercise, when in fact, the first (his) hypothesis is quite short, and he had no indication (until Aristoteles' objected) that he would have...
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Topics: philosophy, plato, parmenides, NSPRM, plg, pg1
Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
Aug 30, 2016 Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society
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Stefanos sections: 127e,136a Barbara's notes: Greetings, included is today's audio. And a chart picture by Brad. Present: Pierre, Barbara, David, Bradley, Josh, Kevin, Regina, Yoni Sorry but this tape starts a bit late, maybe 3 minutes. Pierre speaks increasingly softly as the class progressed. We become increasingly quiet. I push the tape recorder ever closer. He nudges it away. However, I'm hoping it's clear to you. I haven't checked. The subject of the discussion might be described as...
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Topics: philosophy, plato, parmenides, NSPRM, plg, pg1
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp4 Sections: 157b-158c Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, Sayon, JeffS Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg Image, Crop Circles 24 , courtesy Le Petit Poulailler on Flickr , CC BY-NC-ND 2.0
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp4
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Dialogues: parmenides Chapters: hyp4 hyp3 plg Sections: 156a 129e 136a 136b 136c Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Nancy, Bradley, JulieH, Yoni, JeffS First we worked in the 3rd hypothesis (but PG had thought he was reading in the 4th -- this was a rare mistake on his part). so diagram 1 started out looking like it was for the 4th, but was really the 3rd. "The receiving and releasing of ousia is the process of coming to be." Then we moved to looking at the 4th hypothesis....
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp3, hyp4, plg
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another morning of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 4, Chaps 10 and 11 and the beginning of 12. Attendees Pierre, Barbara, Regina, Eldar, JulieH More Info (*) Proclus' Theology of Plato (Thomas Taylor translation): Volume Eight in the...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theology-of-plato, proclus, book04, chap10, chap11, chap12
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Dialogues: parmenides Chapters: hyp4 Sections: 157e 158a 158b 158c 158d Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Nancy, Bradley, Yoni, JeffS Parmenides discussion proper begins at 0:04:00 (h:mm:ss).  From 1:32:30 to end is discussion with Regina. Pierre's chart: "If Parmenides' vision is a whole -- a perfect complete total -- then all that cannot reach that level -- while it seems to be a whole -- is only a part." Again, the "paragraph numbers" we have taken to referring...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp4
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: plg Sections: 132a 132b 132c 132d 132e Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Nancy, JulieH, Eldar, Yoni, JeffS we are trying to figure out Socrates Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 6, Chapters 18-19. Attendees Pierre, Barbara, David, Julie, JeffL, Regina Credits Recording: Barbara Image, " guardians " courtesy of Flickr user Roberto Zerpa under a Creative...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theology-of-plato, book06, chap18, chap19, proclus
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Synopsis Jeffrey Mishlove interviews Pierre Grimes on Jeffrey's online program, New Thinking Allowed . We are not sure of the copyright status so for now we are only providing links to these videos on Jeffrey's YouTube channel, rather than storing copies of the videos here on archive.org. Thank you, Jeffrey, for interviewing Pierre. We love your channel and your long wonderful line of fascinating guests! Interviews on YouTube: 2017-10-03 Plato's Republic 2017-10-03 Philosophical Midwifery...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSNTA, pg1, dreams, psychedelics, mysticism, mindfulness
Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 142b 142c Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, JulieH, Eldar, JeffS Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp2
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another morning of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 4, Chapters 14 and 22. Attendees Pierre, Eldar, JulieH, David, Regina, Barbara More Info (*) Proclus' Theology of Plato (Thomas Taylor translation): Volume Eight in the Thomas Taylor...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Parmenides 127e,137a; Commentary Book 5 Attendees Pierre, Barbara, JulieH, David, Regina Notes from Barbara Pierre put these notes on a new chart. With the 12 points of Socrates (at 127E) and applying the four points of Zeno's Dialectic (at 137A) it should be possible to understand and resolve Socrates' 12 points by reconciling them with Parmenides 9 Hypotheses. (So we started looking at the...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, commentary-on-platos-parmenides, book5, proclus
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Thanks to Bob Keller for filming, Julie Grabel Postel for producing and funding, and Sean Angier and Lisa Bivens for editing and digitizing from VHS to DVD. http://noeticsociety.org
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRS, pg1, gorgias, myth
Work: Theology of Plato Author: Proclus Book: 1 Chapter: XIII Topics Covered: (Pierre is in attendance, but Ken King leads most of the session.) the undefiled relationship of Gods to secondary natures the four motive hypostases is there a primary form of motion? and what is the relation of it to the 2nd Parmedian hypothesis? primary and secundary self-motion what moves the whole of heaven and its parts? and what is the cause of its establishment? (Thanks to BillD for videotaping and to StefanR...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, parmenides, proclus, theology-of-plato, book1, chap13, nsbduncan
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Plato's Apology as Socrates' Claim and Evidence that he has been commanded by God to be a philosopher. Thanks to Bob Keller for filming, Julie Grabel Postel for producing and funding, and Sean Angier and Lisa Bivens for editing and digitizing from VHS to DVD. http://noeticsociety.org
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp4 Sections: 157b 157c 157d 142a Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, Nancy, Josh, Bradley, Yoni, JeffS Working from Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg Untitled image of golden bubbles , Pixabay user "LoveToTakePhotos", CC0 Public Domain .
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp4
Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: plg;hyp1;hyp5 Sections: 137b, 141e, 159b, 159e, 160b Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, Eldar 0:00:30 Discussion with Pierre, Regina and Barbara: Are any of the 2-9 called hypotheses? 0:13:07 137b What does it mean, literally, 'I should begin from myself and my own hypothesis concerning the One-Self.'? Pierre advances the argument that there is really only 1 hypothesis, not 9. Possibility: We are going to find out whether the One is, or the One...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, plg, hyp1, hyp5
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Synopsis Bradley has been going back over the “Orange Sutra” -- Pierre's book on Philosophical Midwifery, and asked Pierre some questions on it, which led to a wider issue Pierre has been considering lately -- the implied necessity for metaphysics, indeed, for theology -- once one understands the importance of the pathologos. More Info Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1
Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another morning of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read book 3, all of chapter 21 and the first two paragraphs of chapter 22. Attendees Pierre, Barbara, Regina, Eldar, JulieH Highlights 0:00:30 - getting settled. We left off at Chapter 20. Why do we...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theology-of-plato, proclus, book03, chap21, chap22
Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: plg Sections: 133d,e (P36,P37) Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, JulieH, Eldar, JeffS Synopsis Our study group first continues into our third day ( 1 , 2 ) of looking at what I am calling here the "prelude", i.e., the summary statement Parmenides makes (at P36/133d) of all the problems/issues involved with Socrates' position before he launches into the Master-Slave argument/example. Then, at about an hour-and-a-half in, we start into Parmenides'...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, plg
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 6, Chapter 4. From Barbara: We read through a paragraph and a half of Chapter 4 Book 6. Pierre made a new chart. Attendees Pierre, Barbara, Regina, JeffL Credits Recording, title, and...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theology-of-plato, book06, chap04, proclus
Dialogue(s): timaeus Sections: 39e-40b [Thanks to Marty and Yoni for videotaping and editing/production, and to StefanR for title and cataloguing info.] More info: http://noeticsociety.org
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, nsaops, timaeus
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Finding the Symbol in the Odyssey - 13th book. Thanks to Bob Keller for filming, Julie Grabel Postel for producing and funding, and Sean Angier and Lisa Bivens for editing and digitizing from VHS to DVD. http://noeticsociety.org
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRS, pg1, homer
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Synopsis On this Saturday morning, Barbara, Belinda, Kate, and Grace explore their recent dreams with Pierre midwifing. Dream Texts Barbara’s Dream October 1 2020 In this dream I’m with some people (fellow spiritual seekers) we go to a, or end up at a large, clear, (naturally living, rock and algae) rock lined lake in the midst of (surrounded by) low mountains. And, to get down to the lake, there’s various ways (less direct, ways around) , but one way involves going down the rocky side of...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, NSDRM
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 6, Chapter 24. Attendees Pierre, JeffL, JulieH, Regina, RobertO, Barbara Credits Recording, title, and highlights: Barbara Chart Photo(s): JeffL, Regina Original Location...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theology-of-plato, book06, chap24, proclus
Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Hyp1, 141d-e (P1-91 and P1-99), and consider mainly: What does Parmenides mean by ‘Logos’ , and Does each of the 30-33 conclusions (with their new terms in each one) build reasonably upon the previous conclusions/terms? Topic Highlights and Pierre's Questions What is the significance of that order? What are the principles that are developed, and when are they developed? Bradley's question:...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, hyp1
Synopsis A fun and intense Friday evening with Pierre over Jitsi. First, we do some dreams . Then we return and dive into a discussion of the Parmenides. Pierre gives us new instructions on how to read -- using a process he defines as intuition -- Plato's Parmenides itself, by being informed by Proclus’ works, Theology of Plato (T.Taylor) and Commentary on Plato's Parmenides (Dillon/Morrow). Parmenides 1st hypothesis: Discussion (with Bradley) of the first two lines of the 1st hypothesis, and...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, parmenides, commentary-on-platos-parmenides, theology-of-plato,...
Dialogue(s): problems-and-solutions-concerning-first-principles Sections: Damascius - Problems and Solutions Concerning First Principles [Thanks to Marty and Yoni for videotaping and editing/production, and to StefanR for title and cataloguing info.] License CC BY-NC-ND (Attribution, Non-Commercial, No-Derivates) 4.0 International http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/ More Info Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Sections: Plato - Parmenides [Thanks to Marty and Yoni for videotaping and editing/production, and to StefanR for title and cataloguing info.] More Info Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, nsaops, parmenides
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Dialogue(s): phaedo Sections: 99d-101e [Thanks to Marty and Yoni for videotaping and editing/production, and to StefanR for title and Stephanus numbers.] More Info Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.
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Synopsis 2nd in Pierre's “Book of the Dead” series of seminars. Myths of the dead in Plato's Phaedo and Phaedrus dialogues. Materials Seven videos (MPEG4 full size and OGG VIDEO reduced size for tablets and phones and slow Internet connections) Seminar notes and charts (PDF) Original announcement flyer (PDF) Notes If you would like to contribute notes for one or more of the video sessions, please submit them to info@noeticsociety.org -- Thank you. Credits Thanks to Marty for videotaping....
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSEM, pg1, phaedo, phaedrus
Dialogue(s): commentary-on-platos-parmenides Sections: 1009-1016 [Thanks to Marty and Yoni for videotaping and editing/production, and to StefanR for title and cataloguing info.] More Info Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, nsaops, commentary-on-platos-parmenides, parmenides, proclus
Dialogue(s): commentary-on-platos-parmenides Sections: 881,882,886 [Thanks to Marty and Yoni for videotaping and editing/production, and to StefanR for title and cataloguing info.] More Info Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, nsaops, commentary-on-platos-parmenides, parmenides, proclus
Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session. Today we read Synopsis Another Wednesday afternoon with Pierre on Zoom. Some dream explorations, then Euclid’s applicability to mystic questions and discussion of Cephalus in Plato’s Republic . Highlights Barbara, ChrisC, and Regina explore their recent dreams with Pierre midwifing (with Regina and Josh) Geometry and Proclus: the axioms of Self expression always wanting to show itself Self sees our...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, republic, book01, NSDRM
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Attendees: Pierre, Barbara, Regina, JulieH, Bradley, JeffS Jeff starts us off with a question on homogeneity versus heterogeneity. This leads into Pierre explaining how one gets different results when one applies analogy to homogeneous terms vs when one applies analogy to homogeneous terms (number). The discussion ends up with the necessary numbers, and how they are generated, and used vis-a-vis analogy. So even though the 2nd hypothesis is referenced...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, parmenides, number, analogy
Dialogue(s): theology-of-plato Chapters: book02;chap03;chap04 Attendees: Pierre, JulieH, Barbara, Regina, David, JeffS default_body_description More Info The NS Parmenides Study Group Plato's Parmenides: The Juan and Maria Balboa Translation Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another morning of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read paragraphs 2 through 5 of chapter 7 of book 2, and note multiple problems (“I.O.U.'s”). Attendees Pierre, JulieH, JulieP, Regina, Eldar, JeffS Highlights Para 2 Sun - 2nd monad? Where post...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSPRM, pg1, theology-of-plato, proclus
Synopsis We mostly explore the Parmenides Prologue and 1st hypothesis on this Friday night Jitsi with Pierre. There are several cuts, because Pierre explores a dream with Philly , and also at one point Pierre’s connection goes out, and we discuss Parmenides in pieces and a little of the Ion, while we to wait about half an hour for Pierre to return. Topic Highlights Chit-chat with Regina and Eldar on what they’ve been up to Barbara’s question to Pierre about peri (‘about’, not...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, parmenides, plg, hyp1
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Synopsis Today, before our regular study session on the Parmenides , Pierre helps Kate and Grace explore their recent dreams. Dream Texts Kate’s Dream – Tue 2 June 2020 In the house, came home to a young woman on the phone, talking, yelling to someone on the phone. 2 others, male and female were in another room, room mates of mine? I told her to leave, she didn’t belong there yelling on the phone. After she left I was mad at the other couple for letting her in. I went into the room and...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSDRM, pg1
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Synopsis JeffL and KateS explore their recent dreams with Pierre on a Friday night. Pierre gives us all tips on philosophical midwifery, and its relationship to philosophy and dreams. Highlights 7:10 Does PMW presuppose a platonic philosophy and Dreamwork and PMW is not for personal enhancement. It is for philosophy It’s not just for getting into our psychology, but working on more noble goals. JeffL’s dream The qualities of Justice as described in Book 6 of Plato’s Republic What does a...
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Synopsis Regina explores a dream with Pierre. Some discussion that this brings up on the importance of reflection. Then an exploration with Eldar of his dream. Highlights Regina’s dream exploration Discussion Pierre asks us if we followed the exploration with Regina the importance of Reflection what to do with tyranny How do you test for meaning? How do you go from what something is, to why it is? What is the importance of Regina’s statement about if she says something, it will get worse?...
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Synopsis Another Saturday morning on Zoom with Pierre and members of the NS. Highlights Phaedo and the world of Ideas: Idea-Selves (75A-E) (1) Dream exploration with Regina Dream Texts Regina's Dream Cognitions that are ugly are dangerouse/wrong Resources Plato's Phaedo . Juan and Maria Balboa, translators . See also our NS Reading List . Original Location https://archive.org/details/20210116NSSAT Usage License CC BY-NC-ND 4.0 International License Please Help Support the Project Do you enjoy...
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Synopsis Another Saturday morning with Pierre and the gang. First Pierre explores a dream with Kate , and then we discuss Plato’s Parmenides ( Balboa translation ), first hypothesis. We are still on the first page. Highlights Pierre asks us to review our talk last night (unrecorded) since he was not there 10:34 - 11:16 Regina and he discuss how to understand Parmenides, P1-001 (the first sentence of the first hypothesis), specifically the phrase, ‘in some other way’, vs one alternative...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSSAT, pg1, parmenides, hyp1
Synopsis On a Friday night we continue to look into the 7 causes (detailed in the Balboa document ), and the pathologos and midwifery. Do we need 1 or 2 more causes to account for the pathologos and perhaps also for midwifery? Highlights Must we ask, “What kinds of things have causes?”? What does each of the 7 causes presuppose? That something has come into existence? Does a PL have life? Or not? Thus must it account for “creation”, whenever something has come into existence? What gives...
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Synopsis On this Saturday, Belinda, Aram, Sayon, and Darlene explore the meaning of their recent dreams, with Pierre midwifing. Dream Texts Belinda’s Dream I was putting pieces of like flowers together to make more flowers so like a progression of evolution of flowers Aram’s Dream – Wed 23 Sept 2020 Dream A Scene 1 i am going to the supermarket. on the way in, i bump in to T. we exchange greetings. i am wearing the fluorescent yellow vest he gave me. we both try to make a funny/pleasant...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSDRM, pg1
Dialogue(s): timaeus Sections: 37c-39c [Thanks to Marty and Yoni for videotaping and editing/production, and to StefanR for title and cataloguing info.] More info: http://noeticsociety.org
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Dialogue(s): timaeus Sections: 71e [Thanks to Marty and Yoni for videotaping and editing/production, and to StefanR for title and cataloguing info.] More info: http://noeticsociety.org
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, nsaops, timaeus
Dialogue(s): timaeus Sections: 40e-41a, 71e-72c, 89d-90e [Thanks to Marty and Yoni for videotaping and editing/production, and to StefanR for title and cataloguing info.] More info: http://noeticsociety.org
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Dialogue(s): commentary-on-platos-parmenides;parmenides Sections: 916,912,909,895,951,967 [Thanks to Marty and Yoni for videotaping and editing/production, and to StefanR for title and cataloguing info.] More Info Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.
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Dialogue(s): gospel-of-mark [Thanks to Marty and Yoni for videotaping and editing/production, and to StefanR for title and cataloguing info.] More Info Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, nsaops, gospel-of-mark, new-testament, christianity
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Jeff L's dream. "This shouldn't be this easy." key issues (notes from SarahW): - dreams as drama - When are dreams prophetic? - identifying the key point More info: http://noeticsociety.org/psg
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Dialogue(s): gorgias Sections: 525b More info: http://noeticsociety.org "
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Dialogue(s): elements Chapters: 83 44 15 16 43 46 186 Ken King’s 1 list of propositions that he has said prove the immortality of the soul Proposition 83 - All that is capable of self-knowledge is capable of every form of self-reversion. For that it is self-reversive in its activity is evident, since it knows itself: knower and known are here one, and its cognition has itself as object; asthe act of a knower this cognition is an activity, and it is self-reversive since in it the subject knows...
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, elements-of-theology, proclus
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Our usual Saturday loose/informal discussion, with some great philosophical midwifery* thrown in. Topics discussed: 1. Pierre gives away two books he has read: To Think Like God: Pythagoras and Parmenides. The Origins of Philosophy , by Arnold Hermann Baudolino , by Umberto Eco 2. Midwifery with JulieH re her reluctance to admit she knows (Reference is made to two dreams: one that JulieH brought in yesterday to explore on Friday night -- but that one was not video-recorded. And a second dream...
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Pierre explores dreams with Don, Belinda, and Jed. More info: http://noeticsociety.org
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Pierre with... Josh: Teaching Math. What Does Excellent Teaching Look Like? Why Are We Here? Eldar: What Is the Self? Jed: Report on Calling Home after yesterday's dream exploration Josh: Dream - Waiting for Them to Ask... More info: http://noeticsociety.org
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Dialogue(s): parmenides Chapters: hyp2 Sections: 146b-147d Attendees: Pierre, Nancy, Barbara, David, Regina, JulieH, Eldar, CathyW [Before this recording starts, the group was talking about the protesters of Trump being cited and incarcerated, and Pierre said something along the lines that we have to find a way to protest. I cut off that part because the pocket rustling of the recorder was way too annoying and would take too much time to fix.] Why does he have to show the One and the Many in...
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Pierre explores dreams with Jed and JulieH, and with Julie, a bit of midwifery as well. More info: http://noeticsociety.org
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[This "Saturday" talk actually takes place this week on a Sunday. -JS] Pierre talks with JeffS about his recent midwife talk and his success playing/practicing piano since then, then asks him if he would like to up his game and choose a next higher challenge (LISP/Scheme, teaching, writing on NeoPlatonism, etc.) so as to continue further insights (via blocks/midwifery). [The brilliant little book mentioned which teaches recursion via a "functional" computer programming...
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Synopsis Three of us explore our dreams and daydreams with Pierre EricG: Dream 1—29-2019 I’m in a college classroom. I think it’s after lecture and I’m studying with a friend of mine. I think we’re studying and I ask her, “Do you want to get something for dinner with me?” I think she says sure and we walk around campus finding a place to eat. Now I’m at home and I’m on my old childhood computer and desk. I’m writing a paper for class, doing laundry, and doing some other...
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Synopsis Pierre leads the Noetic Society Parmenides study group through another session of study. Lately we've been taking a break from the Parmenides, going through Proclus' Theology of Plato (*) instead, in order to see how Proclus lays out the 14 orders of gods implied in the Parmenides. Today we read Book 6, Chapter 1. Pierre made a new chart and made a lot of reference to the chart that was dated 10/23. Attendees Pierre, David, JulieH, Regina, Barbara Credits Recording, title, and...
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Synopsis Two NS members explore our dreams with Pierre on Friday night. Dream Texts JeffL's Dream -- Mon 11 Nov 2019 I’m sitting in my brother’s room and I’m sitting and playing a video game or watching TV. I get a phone call saying, “Where are you?” The call is from an AABC alumnus because there is an alumni concert that I have agreed to sing in and you have to be pretty good to be invited anyway. (This means that I have been invited into an elite group and | have practiced a lot to...
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Dialogue(s): parmenides-poem;phaedo Sections: Noetic Society Dialogue: [Thanks to Marty and Yoni for videotaping and editing/production, and to StefanR for title and cataloguing info.] More Info Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.
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Dialogue(s): sophist Sections: 264d-268d [Thanks to Marty and Yoni for videotaping and editing/production, and to StefanR for title and cataloguing info.] More Info Pierre Grimes and Philosophical Midwifery The Noetic Society The Pierre Grimes and the Noetic Society collection here on archive.org.
Topics: philosophy, plato, NSFRI, pg1, nsaops, sophist